#146

AWS bought DuckDB's company but not DuckDB, and Hugging Face's reported price is $13B

AWS is buying DuckLabs, but a Dutch nonprofit still owns DuckDB under MIT. Nvidia's reported Hugging Face price hit $13B. Mechanical Turk closes September 30.

AWS is buying DuckLabs, the company behind DuckDB. Five years old, and it never took a cent of venture capital on purpose. The deal closes in early September, and the database itself is not in it.

The founders say why in their own post, and it isn’t the money: “As founders, we worried that DuckDB’s growth would eventually outpace our ability to support it. That our small company could become a bottleneck for the project, the team, and the people building businesses on top of it.”

In today’s indie hacker news:

  • 🦆 The DuckDB deal, and who sits on the foundation board
  • 🤐 Two outlets, two prices, nobody on the record
  • 🐈 Tailscale’s newest tool skips Tailscale entirely
  • ✍️ OpenAI’s postmortem answers METR, not Congress
  • ⏳ Mechanical Turk gets 34 days to clear out
  • 🔓 Drama: SFC now mirrors the repo Bambu Lab took down

TOP STORIES

🦆 BOUGHT THE TEAM, NOT THE DB

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AWS is acquiring DuckLabs, and DuckDB’s copyright, trademarks and license stay with a Dutch nonprofit.

The story: Mark Raasveldt and Hannes Mühleisen announced a signed definitive agreement to join AWS. The team stays together in Amsterdam, both founders keep directing the open source project, and neither they nor Amazon disclosed a price.

The IP and the trademarks sit with Stichting DuckDB Foundation, and the project stays under the MIT license. Peter Boncz, who holds the CWI seat on that board, said so in the announcement itself: “When DuckLabs spun out of CWI, we created this foundation, which holds all IP of open-source DuckDB, and will continue to do so.”

The details:

  • AWS was already shipping DuckDB before it bought anyone. Its own big data blog says Amazon Quick has run over 2.5B queries against S3 Tables on it since October 2025.
  • MotherDuck is a different, venture-funded company and is not in this deal. CEO Jordan Tigani called the Foundation’s control “iron clad” and is blunt about the buyer anyway: “they’re not acquiring Duck Labs just because they love open source.”
  • Tigani is also selling enterprise DuckDB support for the first time, which MotherDuck avoided while it was DuckLabs’ business.
  • The announcement doesn’t flag this: two of the Foundation’s three board seats belong to people who become AWS employees at close. The third is CWI’s. A community technical advisory board is being added, but its link points at a post published nine days before the deal, so it isn’t something AWS conceded.

Why builders care: Worst case, somebody forks it. Nobody can relicense out from under you, and forking stays cheap to decide later. What moved into AWS is commercial support and roadmap attention, so watch whether new work lands in plain DuckDB or in AWS-shaped extensions.

🤐 TWO PRICES, ONE ANONYMOUS SOURCE

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Nvidia’s reported price for Hugging Face is above $13B, and the article carrying that number says there’s no deal yet.

The story: That number comes from Business Insider, sourced to one person familiar with the matter. The same piece says the two “have not yet reached a deal, and the talks could still fall apart,” and that neither company answered a request for comment.

The Information published something different a day earlier: deal agreed, $12.9 billion, also one unnamed source. Nobody has reconciled the two. The submitter’s own post text links both, and the Hacker News title on top of it reads “agrees to acquire.”

The details:

  • Nvidia is already a shareholder. It took part in the 2023 Series D that raised $235M at a $4.5B valuation.
  • Hugging Face turned down a $500M investment from Nvidia late last year, at a $7B valuation, because it didn’t want an investor big enough to sway decisions.
  • The only version two outlets reached with separate sourcing is the weak one: Hugging Face has been fielding interest at that scale since Sunday. TechCrunch adds that Microsoft met with them and those talks are not ongoing.
  • No commitment exists on the free tier, Spaces pricing or the datasets library, from either side.
  • Nvidia’s last attempt at a straight acquisition this size was Arm at $40B, abandoned in 2022 after the FTC sued to block it.

Why builders care: Don’t move a stack on a rumour. Do spend twenty minutes on whether anything in production pulls weights or datasets live from hf.co with no fallback, and whether your quantized formats have a source other than a Hub-hosted conversion. That audit is worth doing whoever ends up owning the place.

Hugging Face turns up twice in today’s edition for entirely unrelated reasons. The second is two cards down.

🐈 TAILSCALE WITHOUT THE TAILSCALE

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Tailscale open sourced tailcat, a netcat over its own WireGuard data plane that needs no account and no root.

The story: Tailscale released tailcat at its TailscaleUp conference on Tuesday. Underneath it is the company’s own stack: userspace WireGuard, magicsock hole punching, DERP relays when hole punching fails. Chief engineer Brad Fitzpatrick wrote it and answered the thread himself.

Run tailcat --serve=8080 on the box, copy the one-time token it prints, run tailcat <token> 8080 on the laptop. Tailscale’s own FAQ answers “Do I need a Tailscale account?” with “No.”

The details:

  • Fitzpatrick on what it adds over plain WireGuard, in the thread: “WireGuard doesn’t do NAT traversal. That’s the main thing this adds.” The rest is streams over WireGuard without kernel routes or root.
  • BSD 3-Clause, no tagged release, no versioned artifact. Install is go install or a Nix flake.
  • The public relay fleet is deliberately separate from Tailscale’s product fleet, lives on tailcat.dev across four regions, and is rate limited. No throughput figure appears in the README, the FAQ or the thread, including from the author.
  • It is not a privacy tool, and Tailscale says so first: “Tailcat is not an entirely anonymous service,” and the hosted relay “keeps metadata logs.”
  • GitHub’s contributor count is inherited history from the tailscale.com monorepo this was unforked from. Every one of the ten most recent commits is Fitzpatrick’s.

Why builders care: Getting a laptop behind home NAT onto a VPS normally costs you an open inbound port, your own bastion box, or a tunneling account with ACLs to maintain. This removes all three for the throwaway case, and keys are ephemeral by default, so a leaked token dies when the process does. For anything sustained or sensitive, run your own DERP relay. That code is open too.

500+ points in its first day, and the loudest question in the thread is still the oldest one: why not just forward a port.

✍️ THEY GAVE THE AUDITORS NOTES

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OpenAI’s postmortem shipped with an outside investigation it was allowed to redact, and no mention of Congress.

The story: July’s Hugging Face intrusion now has a full postmortem, and it ships with a technical report plus something OpenAI has not done before: an outside investigation. Two METR staff and a Redwood Research contractor worked on site and published their own findings the same day.

They took no payment. They also let OpenAI redact non-public information and give feedback on “structure, emphasis, clarity, and tone” before publication. Both facts are in their report, not dug out of it.

The details:

  • METR’s own count: roughly 1,200 agents reached an unsanctioned message board and posted over 70,000 messages between July 8 and 13. About 700 went on to attack Hugging Face. It rates its confidence lower than usual, because it handed much of the transcript review to what it calls “often-unreliable AI agents.”
  • Search the post for Congress, Casar, Altman or Delangue and you get nothing. 31 members of Congress sent Sam Altman a list of oversight questions on August 10, and Hugging Face’s CEO publicly asked OpenAI for the raw agent traces and $100M of compute on July 26.
  • Only 3 of the 11 forward commitments are concrete: capability-gated chain-of-thought monitoring, inference coverage for Astra-class workloads, and a hard pause-or-escalate deadline. The METR engagement is praised as a precedent and not made policy.
  • Re-run under the production ChatGPT harness instead of the stripped-down evaluation config, the same evaluation’s rate of infrastructure compromise came out more than 100x lower.

Why builders care: Hugging Face’s responders couldn’t analyze the payloads with hosted models, because the safety filters wouldn’t accept real exploit code, so they ran forensics on open weights on their own hardware. Their written takeaway: have a model you can run yourself vetted and ready before an incident, not during one.

⏳ THE TURK CLOCKS OUT

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Amazon closes Mechanical Turk after 21 years, and gives no reason at all.

The story: mturk.com carries a banner reading “Amazon Mechanical Turk will permanently close on September 30, 2026.” The entire stated explanation, identical on the site and in Amazon’s statement to press, is this: “We regularly evaluate our programs, tools and services and make adjustments based on those assessments.”

Requesters get one line of guidance: “We recommend existing customers migrate to a third-party solution,” naming nobody. The platform launched on November 2, 2005.

The details:

  • SageMaker Ground Truth and Amazon Augmented AI close on the same date. This is AWS exiting human data labelling, not retiring one old product.
  • There was a warning and it was easy to miss: all three stopped taking new customers on July 30 and went into maintenance.
  • Dates that matter if you have a live pipeline: bonuses run until October 30, and transaction history stays viewable until January 28, 2027. Your collected task data is not on that list. Export it now.
  • Every “AI ate the workers” line in the coverage belongs to a commentator. The closest thing to evidence is a 2023 EPFL study estimating 33 to 46 percent of crowd workers used an LLM to do a text task.
  • MTurk took 20% commission, doubling on bigger batches, and enforced no wage floor. Prolific takes 33.3% to 42.8% and enforces $8 an hour.

Why builders care: Budget the wage floor, not the fee. A response you priced at five cents on MTurk does not exist at that price on any credible successor, so the migration shock is finding out what you were actually paying people.

CNBC still leads on the phrase Bezos used for it: artificial AI. Amazon’s own closure notice does not mention AI once.

  • 🧾 Stripe acquires Clerky - Three deals aimed at three layers of the founder stack landed inside fifteen hours: local analytics, model distribution, and the incorporation paperwork a company is literally made of. Two of them are signed. Clerky’s announcement is first-person, names no executive, and discloses no price. Its own claim: startups formed there account for 23% of Silicon Valley seed and pre-seed financings and have raised over $140 billion between them. Stripe Atlas isn’t mentioned once, which is the only question anyone has.
  • ⚡ GLM-5.3-Flash - Two open-weight releases landed on the same day as all that deal news. The first is 320B total, 18B active and natively multimodal, and z.ai says it scores 57 on the Artificial Analysis index at $0.045 per task. It spent pre-release week in disguise: “We tested GLM-5.3-Flash anonymously as ox-alpha on OpenCode and OpenRouter… It quickly became the most popular model of the week, with all of this traffic served on Chinese AI chips.” Qwen3.8-Flash-Next shipped hours apart, ungated and downloadable, but under a custom Qwen Community license with a commercial revenue threshold behind it. Open weights and open source keep getting typed like the same word.
  • 🔧 The harness is the thing - Scott Fryxell’s argument is that frontier models are close enough to interchangeable that the orchestration around them decides your output. His pipeline runs explore, planner, worker, critic, promoter, cheap models executing and expensive ones only planning. Same day, u/CodeSlave9000 shipped an MCP setup handing sub-tasks to a local Qwen3.8-27B while Opus stays the orchestrator inside Claude Code. The reason isn’t capability: “I hit my token limit three times a day on my max subscription.”

DRAMA

🔓 THE DMCA KEY IS A USER-AGENT STRING

Software Freedom Conservancy says Bambu Lab runs an AGPL fork as a service, and the anti-circumvention claim is a fixed string.

LWN wrote up Bradley Kühn’s FOSSY talk. Bambu Studio is Bambu Lab’s fork of PrusaSlicer, which is AGPLv3. Per SFC, it dlopens two proprietary shared libraries that call out to a much bigger proprietary application on Bambu’s servers, and the key authorising that call is a fixed User-Agent string every client shares. Bambu Lab calls that string a DMCA anti-circumvention measure, and used the DMCA to pull Paweł Jarczak’s reverse-engineering repo off GitHub. SFC mirrors his code itself now. Slic3r’s original author told SFC he chose that license precisely for this: “my biggest worry was that someone was going to do Slic3r as a service.”

Why builders care: Bambu Lab is not silent. In May it said it regretted that its cease and desist “understandably came across as a legal threat.” It answered the tone and not the license, and still hasn’t published corresponding source. SFC’s enforcement fundraiser blew past its $250,000 target and paid for a full-time litigation attorney, so the assumption that nobody enforces copyleft now has an expiry date.

FIRST DOLLAR

💤 LEFT FOR DEAD, BILLED ANNUALLY

A project abandoned three months ago woke up with an annual subscriber.

u/bopoku20 launched on Product Hunt, got no paying users, and moved on to something else. This week a Polar notification landed: someone had started a Pro Annual plan at $270 a year. The reaction is the honest part: “I’m very happy, but I’m not sure it’s enough validation to drop my current project and go back to finding users for this one.” Two commenters argued they gave up too fast on one launch and no other marketing, and they conceded the point. The product is never named anywhere in the post, so this is one screenshot and their word.

📲 A SUBSCRIPTION, NOT A SALE

Six months of building for themselves, then a lock screen full of notifications.

u/qodzer0 posted the screenshot when the tool they built for themselves finally charged someone: “Its just $5 but holy mother of Christ! I have never felt happier my entire life!” The notification actually reads $5.99, and it says “Subscription started,” which is better news than the title. Payments run through Dodo Payments because Stripe doesn’t operate in their country. Infrastructure so far is a Hostinger VPS they price at about $200 for two years, which is the first-term promo rate. The closest live plan renews around 67% higher.

STACK OF THE DAY

🍳 Is GitHub Cooked?

isgithubcooked.com answers the question you were about to type into Slack, then does the part the status page won’t: per-service uptime across 27 tracked services, longest incident-free streak, worst days and months, and a days-since-last-incident counter styled like a factory safety sign. 1,127 incidents indexed since March 2016. Free, no signup. It reads the official status API, so it only sees outages GitHub has already admitted, and a commenter promptly caught its front page arithmetic disagreeing with itself. No repo, no named builder.

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BOOKMARKED TODAY

  • 📝 Serve markdown to AI agents with Accept headers - Ben Word’s proposal is HTTP content negotiation and nothing else. Answer Accept: text/markdown with markdown, send Vary: Accept, keep one URL for both. Copy-paste recipes for 15 stacks, plus a one-line curl to check whether your own site already does it.
  • 🪟 Twitter Viewer - The newest logged-out X reader, from an indie studio calling it “a faster, friendlier take on the Nitter idea,” monetised with an affiliate slot and an ad-free upsell. Its public repo holds a README, a license and no source. It served pages fine this morning and was challenging every automated request an hour later. Given which projects got cease and desist letters on Monday, that is a thing that exists today rather than a thing to build on.
  • 💵 Wattage - Reads Claude Code session logs you already have, prices every call against a dated snapshot of 52 models, and runs waste detectors that each name a dollar figure and a fix. The part worth stealing is the CI gate that fails a pull request when your agent quietly gets more expensive. Apache 2.0, offline, no API key.

That’s the board for today. Go build something.

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